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Poster: k-otic Date: Jul 4, 2011 12:21pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

LoL ... the magic of an approx 10 year old VHS tape in its full crispness :)

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Poster: HektorT Date: Jul 5, 2011 12:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

There are two versions on Amazon Instant Video and the notice is readable in the free preview (only if you watch on roku - the web player is kooky and covers it up). It says:
© MCMLVII by CV Whitney Pictures Inc. All Rights Reserved

So that is a valid year, but the name doesn't match the name on the renewal registration. Does somebody have the CCE 1950s to see who registered the copyright originally? For the notice to be valid, the correct name has to be on it.

On Amazon there are two versions. One version has the Columbia Pictures logo screen intact and costs $2.99 to rent, the other has the Columbia Pictures logo screen removed and instead says "An Archives Production" and then just before the title screen it says "Stellar Films Associates Presents". Stellar Films does primarily PD stuff. That version is $1.99 to rent. Incidentally amazon has the two versions reversed, when you click the $2.99 version the detail screen for the other comes up.

This movie is also released on a 20 film PD compilation of westerns and it sounds pretty good, which is why I was trying to see what was going on with it. Anyway, I would guess the notice is invalid due to the wrong name on it. Maybe somebody can check?

This post was modified by HektorT on 2011-07-05 19:58:51

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jul 6, 2011 6:22am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

The problem is not with the notice or the original registration. Both were in order. The original registration record from the Cumulative Copyright Catalogue 1950-59 is:

THE YOUNG LAND. C. V. Whitney Pictures.
Released by Columbia Pictures Corp. 89
min., sd.. Technicolor, 35mm. From a story
by John Reese. © C. V. Whitney Pictures,
Inc.; 30Dec57; LP12884.

and the notice matches those details.

The reason this film is considered public domain is the renewing party. Tartan Enterprises was 1985's entry into the copyright hijackers hall of fame. They filed 20 renewals in December 1985:

Damn Yankees. By Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc. 1958
Dangerous youth. By Everest Pictures, Ltd. 1958
Enemy from space. By United Artists Corporation. 1957
Hell Canyon outlaws. By Jerold-Zukor Productions, Inc. 1957
*I bury the living. By Maxim Productions, Inc. 1958
*James Dean story. By George Robert Documentaries, Inc. 1985 (Registration)
*James Dean story. By George Robert Documentaries, Inc. 1957 (Renewal)
Last paradise. By Zenith Films. 1957
Lovemaker. By Juan A. Bardem. 1958
Man from Tangier. By Butcher's Film Productions. 1957
Man on the prowl. By Jana Film Enterprises, Inc. 1957
*Mark of the hawk. By World Horizons, Inc. 1958
*Missouri traveler. By C. V. Whitney Pictures, Inc. 1957
Pajama game. By Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc. 1957
Parisienne. By Filmsonor, S.A. 1957
Poor but beautiful. By Dino Risi. 1958
Search for paradise. By Stanley Warner Cinerama Corporation. 1957
Traversee de Paris. By Marcel Ayme, Pierre Bost & Jean Aurenche. 1957
Woman in a dressing gown. By Godwin-Willis Productions, Ltd. 1957
*Young land. By Columbia Pictures Corporation. 1957

most were also renewed by their rightful owners and remain in copyright. The ones marked * were not renewed by their original owners or their legitimate successors.

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Poster: HektorT Date: Jul 6, 2011 8:19am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

Thank you for the help Video Cellar

Mystery solved. The Young Land should be public domain

This post was modified by HektorT on 2011-07-06 15:19:37

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Poster: k-otic Date: Jul 7, 2011 7:02am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

Okay ... coming right up :P

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Poster: jeffzkrazie Date: Jul 7, 2011 5:20pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

So
I bury the living
James Dean Story
Mark of the hawk.
Missouri traveler
Are all public domain? I happen to have all four movies of these! So I will upload them if they're legitimately PD!

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Poster: OTRTim Date: Jul 7, 2011 6:31pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: a few movies in question ...

I Bury The Living is already on IA.
http://www.archive.org/details/IBuryTheLiving1958

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